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PostSubject: Yet another cleaner application   Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:30 am

This is my first time cleaning a manga, I hope I did well and didn't mess it up completely.

TEST #1

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TEST #2

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I sort of screwed the guy in the middle up... I moved the two halves together ^^, big mistake there

TEST #3

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I couldn't quite do the lines in the last panel... but I guess perfection comes with experience...
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:52 am

Overall, your leveling needs some work.

1) Underleveled, if any was done at all. Grays look too dark.

2) Redraws are good, overall good job with this page.

3) Same as 1. Make sure the blacks are burned/leveled properly. Redraws are good for the most part, little choppy, but it would probably look good once TSed over.

Just work on your leveling some and try one or two more pages.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:37 am

I actually made the first one darker which sort of worsened the leveling, I just thought that it looked better...

When you say that I should try one or two more pages do have any specific pages I should try myself on or can I just look through the net for RAWs?
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:57 am

I'll make you a member of Scanlation Academy, then you'll have access to other training materials.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:10 am

Thanks, this gives me something to do tomorrow since I can't walk properly due to Fridays PE lesson ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:50 pm

advice:
you can use burn to not over level it.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:30 am

syler wrote:
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you can use burn to not over level it.


Not really you can't.....
Leveling is changing the contrast of whites and blacks.... burn darkens.....

I think it might work in the short run, but idk.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:38 am

Colonel Site wrote:
syler wrote:
advice:
you can use burn to not over level it.


Not really you can't.....
Leveling is changing the contrast of whites and blacks.... burn darkens.....

I think it might work in the short run, but idk.


syler's right if you do it the right way. you burn the areas that need to be darker so you dont have to level it as much. you cant replace leveling with burning but its easier to not over level that way.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:06 pm

Wand to select black areas + burn tool saves lives tbh.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:29 pm

Galooza wrote:
Wand to select black areas + burn tool saves lives tbh.


wand???

hmm. does gimp have one
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:58 pm

yes gimp has one.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:02 am

ok first of all i must ask. what manga is that in the first cleaned page Razz

ok now for what i thought of it.

1. i like the fact that you got the blacks nice and black and the whites white. however, i think that the greys could be a tad lighter. other than that, great job.

2. same as #1. the greys are a little dark for me. also that page redraws are kinda hard. 8/10 i'd say, 'cause i tried that test myself. just don't rush the redrawing and take your time. (not that i can say that my redraws (or patience) are very good. so i'm really not one to talk about redrawing. Razz

3. ahh... this is one that your lovely blacks are lacking. the blacks are not all black. if it looks like it is all black on your monitor just turn up the brightness and you'll see what i'm talking about. and the last panel.
ok its good that you know that you messed it up a little.
so the main problem with the redraw is the lack of black and the jagginess of the redraw. you probably should burn the blacks (thats what i do anyways.) and then either use the pen tool (there's countless tutorials on the 'net) or use a very steady hand at about 300% magnification. i prefer to use the steady hand due to its quickness (spellcheck does say this is a word. O_O)
my way to get good mouse control is to either clean alot or to play lots of mouse dependent games. (FPS, RTS, etc.) which is a much better way in my opinion. more fun Very Happy

and just correct that and i think that you'll be a great cleaner Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:50 am

which manga? dunno ^^, I'd say NA, they are the ones posted here
(never read NA, wouldn't know, it's a sin I know ^^)

there are some more recent works in the scanlation academy ^^
<--- did I make that too fast?
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Wed Mar 04, 2009 4:58 am

I wanna say the first one is To Aru Kagaku no Choudenjibou.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:06 am

Galooza wrote:
I wanna say the first one is To Aru Kagaku no Choudenjibou.


as I said, I wouldn't know ^^
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:30 am

The first one is railgun, 2nd is alive, third is Naga....

Shoulda asked me lol... I made this test.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:29 am

lol thank you

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Tue Mar 31, 2009 2:41 am

I'm gonna resubmit the application, just to get some attention ^^
I somewhat like the redrawing I did on the med, and the hard is fine also, I think...
I found when leveling working in 250 Ppi (more is just silly ^^) seems to help...

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med
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hard
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PS: looking forward to get my but kicked ^^ and my goal is to pass the cleaning, typesetting and proofreading tests... and maybe eventually the translation test once I've learned some japanese.
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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:17 am

your redrawing is ok but, youu still over level it.

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PostSubject: Re: Yet another cleaner application   Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:59 am

syler wrote:
your redrawing is ok but, youu still over level it.


yay feedback, the thing I've been missing ^^
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